Young Scouts Outfitters

note: The following reviews predate the numeric rating system and are not included in this outfitter's overall rating.

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outfitter review submitted by: Jeff Haugland on Jan 9 2007

Species Hunted: mule deer /whitetail

Game Quality: none

Accommodation Quality: fair at best

Camp Condition: very very poor

Food Quality: ok

Guide Experience: experienced road hunters

Other Personal Experience: none

Overall Impression: what hunt

Recommend: only to my worst enemy

Reviewer Comments: This was my 3rd tome ther, the 1st great, the 2nd OK, the 3rd was suppose to be a Janurary late season hunt. The season was closed and I was without a license to boot. I found all this out after I was picked up and taken to camp. He was ready to hunt a closed season. Hew also wanted to borrow $ , he was broke. I got a ride back to the airport from his brother and got an early flight out of the country. I was took for $5000. Don't let this happen to you. Be Warned!

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outfitter review submitted by: Dan Newman on Jan 13 2006

Species Hunted: Whitetail/Mule Deer

Game Quality: Poor

Accommodation Quality: Poor

Camp Condition: Poor

Food Quality: Poor

Guide Experience: Poor

Other Personal Experience: Poor

Overall Impression: Terrible

Recommend: No

Reviewer Comments: This was the worst experience I have ever had in my 37 years of hunting (including 10 years in Canada). I called and then wrote a letter to the Saskatchewan Outfitters Association and the president of Tourism Saskatchewan. The following parts from that letter will give you an idea as to what happened on my hunt. My group was booked for a 7 day hunt. Upon arriving at the Saskatoon airport we were to be picked-up at 4pm by a representative from Randy's operation and driven to the indian reserve. At 5:30pm we started to try and reach Randy to see why we had not been picked-up. After several hours of being told someone was on their way, we were finallly picked-up at 11:30pm, 7-1/2 hours after we had landed and were scheduled to be picked-up. We were then taken to a motel and told that we would have to pay for the room and that we would be reimbursed later. This was due to the fact that Randy had overbooked at the hunting lodge and had no room to keep us. The next morning we met Randy for the first time and immediately communicated (politely) that we wished to speak with him, when he had a moment, regarding the way things were being handled. It was getting late, and all of the hunters still had to be dropped off for the morning hunt so we did not get the opportunity to discuss the matter with him at that moment. No one in my group saw Randy again until noon the second day. When we did finally see him, we asked again to speak with him about our concerns. Here is where it really gets bad..... A member of our group began to inquire as to why so many things were not as promised. Randy's reaction was totally unexpected and caught us all off guard. He immediately began to use profanity and curse directly at our party member calling him names that I will not write down. I immediately tried to stop Randy's verbal altercation fearing it would escalate. I then communicated to Randy that I thought, at this point, it would be best if our group ended the hunt and left. I asked if he could arrange to have us driven back to Saskatoon immediately. He did and within minutes we were gone. The scheduled 7 day hunt was over after 1-1/2 days. No refunds, no reimbursments. In all of my years of hunting, I have never witnessed such an outburst and vulgar display from anyone at a hunting camp, much less the outfitter. Randy's outburst was totally unprovoked and his actions were extremely unprofessional. I was surprised at the outfitters verbal attack on a friend. I was concerned for our safety because we were on an Indian reservation in a foreign country with no vehicle or way to get out. If you are wondering, I did call references. The main concern with references that come from the outfitter is often (sadly) they do not reflect the entire story. I have done everything in my power to report this individual and his operation. All I can say about this outfitter is be warned!

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outfitter review submitted by: Dan Newman on Dec 17 2005

Species Hunted: Whitetail /Mule Deer Combo

Game Quality: Poor

Accommodation Quality: Poor

Camp Condition: Terrible

Food Quality: Terrible

Guide Experience: Poor

Other Personal Experience: Poor

Overall Impression: Terrible

Recommend: Never

Reviewer Comments: I booked a 7 day combo hunt for mule/whitetail deer. The hunt was to be a one on one guided spot and stalk hunt. Our group was told by the outfitter that the camp would not have more than 6 hunters at a time. We had 4 hunters in our group and there was supposed to be another 2 hunters the week we booked for a total of six. One member of our party had an emergency at the last minute and could not make the trip, so there should have been only 5 in camp. We landed at the airport at 4pm and were not picked up until 11:30pm! We were left in the airport for 7-1/2 hours after repeatedly being told by Randy's wife and Randy that someone was on their way. We found out later that no one was told to come and pick us up until 9:30pm. We went for breakfast the first morning of the hunt and found out that there were another 5 hunters already in camp, making a total of 8. We soon learned the outfitter was not equipped to handle 5 hunters much less 8. Our group had to wait to eat breakfast after the first group. We ended up eating one ice cold egg, 1 piece of cold toast and 1 frozen carton of orange juice with a straw. My guide then took me to a stand. He was Randy's (the outfitter) youngest brother and all of 17 years old. I told him I had signed up for a spot and stalk hunt and did not want to sit in a stand. He ignored me and brought me to a stand anyway. It may have been because he had broken his leg a couple of months earlier and could barely walk. I saw 4 mule deer doe and one yearly mule deer buck the first morning. My guide then picked me up for lunch and we proceeded to drive around from house to house for the next hour trying to find out where we were going to eat. We again were served a horrible meal. I was again dropped off at the same blind that afternoon and I saw 2 mule deer (1 doe and 1 small buck). The next morning I had to wake up my guide to bring me out hunting. He had over slept due to a late night of who knows what. He took me to another stand and I saw 1 young whitetail buck which would score about 100-110, 1 mule deer doe and 1 small mule deer buck. My guide picked me up and we went back for lunch and went through the same routine of driving from house to house trying to find out who was going to make lunch. Again, another horrible meal. By now the group of five hunters had left and we were expecting the other 2 hunters to be arriving. We found out that in addition to the 2 hunters we were expecting an additional 5 hunters showed up. Now we had a total of 10 hunters in camp! The first morning of the hunt we had asked Randy if we could talk with him concerning the way things were being handled. He stopped playing his "air" guitar to the rock and roll music (playing at 7am) and said he would talk with us. He then disappeared for a day and no one knew where he was. The next time we saw him he immediately asked us for our money. When my partner started to talk to Randy about the way things were being handled Randy blew up and went on a rampage, yelling and cussing my partner at the top of his lungs. After I was able to settle Randy down, we asked to be taken immediately back to town and our hunt was over. This was truly the worst hunting experience I have had in 37 years of hunting. This outfitter is totally unorganized. He failed in every aspect of the hunt for which he was responsible and could control. This outfitter has no control and is definitely out of control! The Outfitters Association should seriously review this person's mental stability to conduct this type of operation. With his temper and outburst something may seriously go wrong one day.

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outfitter review submitted by: Mark Tipton on Nov 30 2005

Species Hunted: WT/MD

Game Quality: Poor

Accommodation Quality: Poor

Camp Condition: Poor

Food Quality: Awful

Guide Experience: poor with no experience

Other Personal Experience: Very Unprofessional

Overall Impression: Awful

Recommend: absolutely not

Reviewer Comments: The problems began when the outfitter was not there to pick us up as planned. After numerous calls, and being repeatdly lied to, we were eventually picked up over 7 1/2 hours late. We, being three hunters with all our gear, were then packed into a truck and taken to a motel, without so much as an apology or an explanation. We were picked up the next morning, but still no sight of the outfitter. We were fed a cold breakfast by the outfitter's wife in their filthy mobile home. Then we were taken to our blinds by a "driver", not a guide as admitted by the man who was our driver. He stated he only knew where the stands were, but not much about hunting. So much for the one on one guide service we were promised by the outfitter that we have yet to lay eyes on. The stands were terrible. My stand consisted of a board to sit on with no foot rest, with the board/seat facing a solid wall with no windows. The construction of the blinds did not take into consideration factors that should have been addressed so as to allow for a tolerable all day sit. The bait was placed over 300 yards from the blind and we were left in the blinds without any means of communication. That night we were allowed to sleep in our driver's home and his wife cooked us a decent meal. We can honestly say he was the only positive in this awful experience. Poor guy, who seemed to be the outfitter's uncle, admitted he had not been paid in weeks and he was out approx. $3,000. Day 2 --we have still not seen the outfitter and we still only have the driver, but no guides. Before we went out to hunt our driver told us that 7 more hunters were due to arrive, even though we had been promised a max. of 6 hunter's in camp. My group was suppose to have been a total of four hunters, and at the last minute one of my guys cancelled due to an ill wife. So, at the most we should have had 3 other hunter's joining us, not 7 more hunters. We then hunted half a day and came in to be served another awful meal by the outfitter's wife. After the meal that we ate in the outfitter's filthy home, that we ate only because we were so hungry, the outfitter finally arrived. The first words out of his mouth were, "Did you bring cash or cashier's checks". He still did not apologize or offer any explanation for all the broken promises. Therefore, we elected to speak to him outside in hopes that we could diplomatically voice our dissatisfaction and our concerns, but to no avail. He blew up and started shouting, and he never took responsibility for not picking us up on time, for not have one on one guides, for not having proper accommadations and for booking the hunt with too many hunters. Consequently, we asked to be taken back to Saskatoon, which he arranged after more moaning and groaning. Never did he even attempt to make things right. So this outfitter is $8300 richer for a day and half hunt, with very little out of pocket expense for himself. The only thing I can say is I hope there is truth to "what goes around comes around". Beware of this outfitter!!!! Please feel free to call me if you want even more details. Mark Tipton- 979-249-3541.

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outfitter review submitted by: Dan Newman on Nov 30 2005

Species Hunted: Whitetail /Mule Deer Combo

Game Quality: Poor

Accommodation Quality: Poor

Camp Condition: Extremely Poor

Food Quality: Extremely Poor

Guide Experience: My guide 6 yrs (17 years old)

Other Personal Experience: Unknown

Overall Impression: Extremely Poor

Recommend: No

Reviewer Comments: Here is what Randy (the owner/operator/outfitter) promised over the phone and most of which was listed on the contact he signed. I have a copy. 1. pick up at airport upon arrival. 2. Lodging would be cottages (if finished - under construction) if not - motel, all lodging included in the price of the package hunt. 3. 1 on 1 guide 4. 3 meals a day 5. spot and stalk hunting - no blinds (hunt tailored to my request) 6. opportunity at a 150 class whitetail or better and a 180 class muley or better. 7. Hunt on Sunday - total 7 day hunt 8. no more than 6 hunters in camp at any time 9. fresh stands - not hunted previously 10. outfitter (Randy) accessible to hunters at anytime during the hunt. Here is what really happened. 1. landed in Saskatoon airport at 4:00PM. No one there to pick us up. Started calling the outfitter every hour on the hour. Outfitter and his wife repeatedly informed us that someone was on their way. Later found out that no one was on their way (they basically lied and admitted that they lied). Finally picked-up at airport at 11:30pm (7.5 hours late). 2. Outfitter had finished 2 cottages (square buildings with no running water - did have unregulated wood burning stoves). Third cottage under construction but not usable. The outfitter had overbooked and did not have a place for us to stay. Asked us to pay for a motel room and he would reimburse us later, which he never did. 3. I was set up with 1 on 1 guide. My guide was the outfitter's younger brother. He said he had 6 years experience guiding, he also said he was 17 years old. Correct me if my math is wrong, but that means he was guiding at age 11! The first morning we could not locate my guide, he overslept. Randy's wife called and had to tell me where he was so that I could wake him up. The other 2 hunters in our group were setup with (1) first year guide - again not as stated in the contract. 4. Meals - breakfast consisted of 1 ice cold fried egg, one piece of toast and 1 frozen orange juice in a squeeze box with a straw. The other meals were just as bad if not worse. The hardest thing was trying to figure out where they were going to take us to eat. None of the staff seemed to know. We would just drive around to different houses until we found a house with food (mostly left overs) and then we would eat. 5. I repeatedly asked my guide to take me out to spot and stalk - as previously agreed upon with Randy. (I have hunted in Canada for 10 years and always stand hunted. I did not want to stand hunt anymore.) My guide just kept bringing me to stands. This may have been due to the fact that he had broken his leg a few months prior and could barely walk! 6. No one in our party saw any good animals, and 1 above avg. mule deer was brought into camp by another hunter. Several small mule deer were taken by other hunters. The only whitetail taken was a very promising (should never have been shot) 2-1/2 to 3-1/2 year old taken by a native boy (no hunters). The deer was shot 5-6 times with a .22 caliber rifle. The native indian guides got a big kick out of that. 7. Our scheduled 7 day hunt ended after a day and a half - we had seen and heard enough - and left. 8. There were 4 hunters in our group but one could not make it at the last minute. When we arrived there were already 5 hunters in camp making 8 hunters total. After the 5 hunters left, 7 more arrived making 10 hunters in camp. Remember we were promised only 6 hunters in camp at any one time. 9. We were all brought to stands that all had deer killed out of them prior to our arrival. Not one stand was clean - as promised by the outfitter. When asking my guide if they had any clean stands he said yes, I requested that he bring me to one, but he never did. 10. Last but not least, Randy had told me on the phone that he would be accessible to all of the hunters anytime during the hunt, just in case anything came up. We arrived in camp on Saturday morning and met Randy at breakfast and I saw him again at midday. We had communicated to him earlier that we would like to talk about what was going on, and he acknowledged he would talk with us. We did not see him again until 1pm /Sunday when he came in and (without even saying another word) asked us for money. We immediately asked to speak with him outside, he came out. When one of our party calmly started to express our concerns about what was going on, Randy bursted into profanity and started to yell and scream at this person. We immediately asked to have a ride back to town and ended our hunt. All of these things happened in a day and a half, it was a horrible experience. I would not recommend this outfitter to anyone.

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outfitter review submitted by: Mark Brown on Nov 30 2005

Species Hunted: whitetail/mule deer

Game Quality: poor

Accommodation Quality: poor

Camp Condition: poor

Food Quality: poor

Guide Experience: poor

Other Personal Experience: poor

Overall Impression: poor

Recommend: no

Reviewer Comments: I was scheduled to hunt the week of November 27 through December 3, 2005. The outfitter was 8 hours late picking me up at the airport. I was told we would have one guide per hunter we had one guide for two hunters. I was told that there would be no more than six hunters in camp the week were there, there was eleven. Our guide while friendly, was as he said, guiding for the first time. We stayed in our guides house and this was the best accommodations we saw. The rest of the facility was very poor. If you are interested in good hunt I suggest you look somewhere else.

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outfitter review submitted by: Michael Sodolak on May 8 2005

Species Hunted: Whitetail/Muledeer

Game Quality: Below Average - 80" WT

Accommodation Quality: Below Average

Camp Condition: Poor - Broken Trucks

Food Quality: Poor

Guide Experience: Family Members

Other Personal Experience: Average

Overall Impression: Poor

Recommend: NO

Reviewer Comments: (Long Review) There were quite a few comments/reports on this site that refuted what I previously stated. I think it is appropriate that I give details as to what happens and let you be the judge of this outfitter. For starters, I am a very experienced hunter who has taken numerous outfitted hunts during the last 15 years and have been hunting deer for 30 years. I have hunted Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, New Mexico, Texas, and Georgia as well as my recent Saskatchewan Hunt. I have been on successful and unsuccessful outfitted hunts, but I am grading this hunt from what the outfitter could control. The best outfitter I have ever hunted with I was unsuccessful on my first hunt with him and have gone back two times and I am brining my wife this fall for my fourth trip. In my pre-planning and searching for an outfitter. I spoke with Randy on three separate occasions about his hunt offering (please note this is what we were told before we got to Saskatchewan in phone conversations). He informed me that he had ample stands that would not be overhunted and that your primary stand would be new and never hunted until you got there. Further, for my hunting partner (my father) it was important that he have someone sit with him for the first two or three days of the hunt to help judge the animals we were supposed to be seeing. We were told to expect to see a 140 Class or better buck daily and at least two 160 or better bucks on a 6 day hunt. I asked what a realistic shot to him was – he commented that it could be a 300 yard shot from a steady rest at a standing deer – I felt this was fair. All stands would have a chair in them to sit on that you could shoot from. He further said you could take a Mule Deer or Whitetail for the cost of the hunt and then a 2nd Animal could be taken for $1000 less than the cost of the hunt. We thought this was fine and would figure it out as the hunt unfolded if we wanted to take a 2nd animal. We were told we would be staying in a B&B with three meals a day and drinks available in the room throughout the hunt. We knew we wouldn’t see very many deer and we were prepared for long, all-day stints in the stands. The land would be farmland fields intermixed with river bottom and brush/treelines that we would be hunting. We were to be picked up at the Saskatoon Inn by 10:00am Sunday Morning and brought to the camp around Noon to sight in our rifles and then be taken to the areas we would be hunting to familiarize ourselves with the lay of the land before the first hunting morning. We were not picked up at Saskatoon until 2:00pm by a young man who brought his 18 month old son. 6 Calls to the outfitter went unanswered on Sunday inquiring about the whereabouts of our ride. This little boy proceeded to jump on our bags, take out our optics, go through our backpacks and personal belongings after repeated talking too’s to stop. They had to stop at McDonalds for lunch – where he proceeded to throw French Fries at my father. After 30 minutes of this it got really old and we about had it when he started jumping on the gun cases. We got to camp and were introduced to Randy Armstrong and taken to our accommodations. The accommodations were a rough trailer that had numerous holes in the walls and air mattresses for beds (not a problem). The issue with the air mattresses were 1/3 full of air and no equipment could be found to blow them up. My father is recovering from back surgery two years ago and sleeping on what amounts to the floor was not what was expected and our requests for the air pumps went unanswered and ignored. We were taken to shoot and sight in the rifles late and brought back for dinner. Dinner consisted of leftover 3 day old cold pizza. Not quite the impression we expected on our first encounters. The stands on the outside looked solid and well built – the chairs were non-existent and you were dropped off about an hour before first light and picked up at dark with your seat being a two by four. Also, when my father asked about someone sitting with him – he was told that was not going to happen. The first day we were told we would have someone check on us at mid-day and bring lunch. We were checked on at 3:00pm – 2.0 hours before dark and brought lunch after having breakfast at 5:00am. We were also using a borrowed truck as the vehicles were ALL damaged and in the shop according to our guide Rocky. 2x4’s were used to brace the seats and hold them up in place. DAY 1 – no animal sightings by any of us. The hunters from Mossy Oak who I spoke with for about 30 minutes as we waited for a ride, were not happy. They were told the same as I about having stands reserved for you and never hunted before you got there. DAY 2 – Our guide was a no show in the morning and Randy took us to our stands. He said he would pick us up at 11:30 – Noon and we would go to a new spot. Well at 3:00pm when nobody showed up I started walking to the nearest town or house to get help to take me back to the Reserve. The entire morning had locals or reservation members driving my entire hunting area trying to bump deer from their bed. It was a complete waste of time. At 4:15pm – a car came down the road which was my guide. He informed me that Randy had “forgotten about us and they were bringing me lunch.” I told them to take me back to the trailer – they wouldn’t for all kinds of reasons and they put me in a spot they said “wasn’t very good (hadn’t seen a deer in a month), but you never know what might happen” in a 2000 acre bean field. My dad had been gotten from his stand at 1:00pm and told they had found a 170+ Class buck. They raced to where they had the buck cornered in a wood lot in the center of a big field. They had three trucks circling the wood lot to hold the buck in its spot and had run this buck for miles to the point he was exhausted. The buck was a 2 ½ year old 120 Class 9 pt – my dad said he wasn’t interested in taking a deer like this by chasing it down with a truck. Well, the natives (Randy’s Uncle, Brother and Brother-In-Law (Game Warden of the Reserve)) decided to “have some fun” and chased the deer further with the truck. They ended up running over the buck with the truck and then had the audacity to tell my father he would need to shoot it to put it out of its misery and TAG IT!! He said no and passed the rifle to them to shoot it. This is the Deer my father supposedly passed on that was mentioned in an earlier post. That evening they didn’t show up to pick up my father until 7:00pm – dark is 5:30pm. The guide said he got lost trying to find the stand – COME ON! Dad and I were both pissed by the way things were being handled and the guide (Rocky) realized it. I spoke with the Mossy Oak guys that evening and they informed me they were not sure they would return after hearing what we told them plus they were not having a positive experience. Still No deer sightings for me or the Mossy Oak guys. DAY 3 – We hunted the same area we did on the first morning and I was told to watch this huge field behind me to see if any deer would cross. They said they would be running hard from the river bottom to my area and be prepared for a running shot – this area was about ½ mile across and I didn’t buy it. I did see two small bucks a yearling spike and a little 8pt (maybe 12” wide) in the morning. The guide came and moved me after the morning, but told me the stand was being “saved for the Mossy Oak hunters and if they come to the stand you need to leave.” They further said to just walk down the hill and you will find another stand to hunt in…. That afternoon I shot a 181” B&C Gross Muley with a 3” drop tine following a yearling doe. That night we caped him and I brought the antlers back to the camper. The hunting consultant in camp said that evening “You did good by taking this buck, you probably won’t see anything better the way things are going.” He further said “This operation is really rough around the edges and is going to have to improve dramatically for me to send anybody back. People cannot be left in stands or not have meals provided when promised a full service hunt.” We ran out of drinking water that evening in the camper and none was brought back to the house during our stay until the morning we left. DAY 4 – At breakfast, Randy approaches me at the table and says – Mike you owe me the extra dollars for your mule deer. I said you told me that I could take either and then a 2nd one would be a fee. He said well that is not the case anymore and you owe me extra dollars. The hunting consultant even piped in and said “You told me we could take either for the hunt cost as Mike states.” I told him, I will not be hunting anymore since I have no more tags and have ended my hunt with the mule deer. That ended the conversation, but I was not spoken too for the rest of the hunt by the outfitter. Dad asked if they had any jam or jelly to go with the toast – they brought him two jars – both were mold filled and fermented when opened. Rocky told dad that morning on the drive when asked about the deer seen at these spots he had been placed at – he said they had taken good bucks there. When further prompted it had been years earlier or early November/Late October _ 6 weeks to one month earlier – but nothing had been seen since. We were supposed to be brought lunch – Dad hunted all day and nobody saw him or brought him anything and I didn’t see anyone all day at the trailer. Luckily, he brought snacks and water bottles we had brought with us because he felt this was going to be a problem. Dad was again picked up a 1.5 hours after dark and brought to the trailer (30 minutes from hunting area) at 7:30pm – 2 hours after dark. He did see a 8pt that would score 120 – 125 B&C, but elected to pass wanting something older. Dinner that night consisted of 5 day old Turkey (the guide Rocky) said they had this the previous Saturday. Day 5 – Dad hunted the entire day without seeing anything. We had discussed that morning having someone take us to the airport on the 6th Day of our hunt. We felt that since they were hours late and having numerous execuses with every question asked we should probably head back when we could – or have enough time to hire a cab to take us back. Randy was a no show that morning or afternoon. DAY 6 – We were taken back to the airport at 10:00am and were able to catch an earlier flight back home. The food was poor, the accommodations were below average (they were dry and we had heat), the camp equipment was in various points of disarray, these are the things the outfitter could control. The weather was much too warm for Canada, but to say if we had stayed we would have gotten our animal – there is much more to this story than that. You place your trust in the outfitter and his employees when you go on out of state and in this case an out of the country hunt – we felt there was no regard for our well being and after we got there we were just a number. You be the judge - can you kill a big animal - sure, but for me a hunt is so much more than killing an animal. It is the total experience and this outfitter failed miserably in my opinion. Please call me or email with any questions.

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outfitter review submitted by: Donald Roll on Apr 5 2005

Species Hunted: Whitetail and Mule Deer

Game Quality: Very Good

Accommodation Quality: Good

Camp Condition: Good

Food Quality: Very Good - Home Cooking

Guide Experience: Average - 4-5years

Other Personal Experience: Good

Overall Impression: Good

Recommend: Yes

Reviewer Comments: I hunted Nov.21 through Nov.27, 2004 for whitetail. The weather was very warm for that time of year. We had 5 hunters in camp, 4 of whom had kills - 3 mule deer and one whitetail scoring from 148 to 167. I personally saw 4 whitetail bucks better than 140, and one well over 180, but it was out of range. I also saw a mule deer over 200. Overall I was very satisfied with the hunt and plan to return. I also have recommended this outfitter to several other hunters.

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outfitter review submitted by: Donald DeVane on Apr 4 2005

Species Hunted: Whitetail, Mule Deer

Game Quality: Excellent

Accommodation Quality: Very Good

Camp Condition: Very Good

Food Quality: Excellent

Guide Experience: Excellent

Other Personal Experience: Very Good

Overall Impression: very Satisfied

Recommend: Absolutely

Reviewer Comments: A very enjoyable trip ! The guides knew every inch of the terrain, which was vast ! They were very professional, and fun to be with. They knew how to make you feel comfortable and sensed your knowledge of the game, and physical capabilities ! I thoroughly enjoyed myself, And I'll be there again this year !! They are building a new lodge, that will be opened for the first time this year !

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outfitter review submitted by: Rich LaRocco on Mar 30 2005

Species Hunted: whitetail or muley

Game Quality: Muleys to 26", whitetail to 160+

Accommodation Quality: double wide mobile home with s

Camp Condition: My guide's truck was a newer 4

Food Quality: Varied from moose sausage with

Guide Experience: 4 years

Other Personal Experience: see below

Overall Impression: Better than expected for a relatively new Indian outfitter

Recommend: To hunters who are realistic

Reviewer Comments: Guides: This outfit has guided hunters for four or five years, and they're still learning, particularly on mule deer. Other hunters: A TV crew left after sitting in stand for one morning, if I heard correctly, and then they went to a high-fence preserve to get their so-called hunting video. Another hunter in camp killed a 180 muley on Day 3 and didn't hunt after that. His dad hunted five days and passed at least one 120 to 130 class whitetails. Weather was unseasonably warm for Canada in early Dec. -- reaching 40F every day but the last day when I was the only hunter who had stayed. On that last day, which was nice and cold, I half of the 12 bucks I saw during the 6-day hunt, including the three biggest bucks. The widest muley I saw was 26". I also passed on a narrow but extremely heavy muley. I passed on a 130-class whitetail and saw two big bucks, one was probably 160+. The big ones were out of range and moving across fields as we were changing hunting areas. I had several customers take this hunt earlier, and they took some very good bucks, including whitetails scoring 168 and 165. A muzzleloader killed a 178, and he emailed me a summary of his October hunt, when he killed a 42" moose, a 5x5 elk, and his 178 deer in a week. Randy said I was the only hunter who hunted the whole hunt and did not kill a deer. He reported taking You can see pictures on trusave.com/youngscouts

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